Fasting

I cannot comprehend how fasting can be sexual abstinence....because then unmarried people "fast" all day and night and do so every day.

And thus fasting would be only able to be practiced for married people who have the means to engage in lawful sexual relations... That does not make sense.
 
Freelancer said:
But in 19:26 would the context not dictate that she didn't eat and drink because she was pregnant. Also her abstaining by not speaking to people could be due to her safety. She left her people who would later accuse of her being unchaste. Also the words صَوْمًا in 19:26 and ٱلصِّيَامِ2:187 are not the same. God does not use synonyms. How would being sick prevent you from 'abstaining' from sexual intercourse.' as there are exemptions to fasting as per 2:184. I am still looking into fasting, but I wanted to know how you reconcile these points.
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That's a good point you made, she was pregnant.
 
saidmirza said:
Peace Barge,

While I am not disputing the usefulness of fasting for health, I am not seeing any examples of abstaining from food and drink for a period of time in any accounts of the former believers in the Qur'an. This is a problem because the Qur'an is complete. I am still researching this issue at the moment.
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I agree with you, fasting probably does mean abstinence from communication, as one other person mentioned, Maryam was pregnant, so it cannot be food.
 
saidmirza said:
Peace brother Daniel,

Recently, I have been researching fasting in the Qur'an. I have some doubts now as to whether the fasting in the Qur'an has to do with abstaining from food/drink. There are a couple of reasons for this: there is no example of fasting from food/drink in the Qur'an of previous believers. And if we consider the Qur'an to be complete, it should furnish us with an example. We have an example, in the case of Mary, in which it explicitly states:



I am leaning towards the understanding that we are to abstain from sexual intercourse from morning to night and to dedicate ourself in calling to God and reading the Qur'an for a number of days. We can eat and drink, if we so wish. That is what a repeated reading of the following passage leads me to believe:
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Peace brother, I have also looked at these examples of fasting in the Quran, as Allah states he has provided for every example and what I took from it that Fasting is abstaining from communication so that we are always mindful of Allah and He may purify us with his remembrance. Allah has given a concession with regards to our wives that we may communicate when in private but not in public. Allah did not prohibit food and drink.
 
SameerHassen said:
Peace brother, I have also looked at these examples of fasting in the Quran, as Allah states he has provided for every example and what I took from it that Fasting is abstaining from communication so that we are always mindful of Allah and He may purify us with his remembrance. Allah has given a concession with regards to our wives that we may communicate when in private but not in public. Allah did not prohibit food and drink.
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Not only from communication, but from ignorance also.

As it is said in 2:187: “…seek what Allah has prescribed for you and CONSUME and ABSORB (messages) until the white thread is clarified from the black thread of dawn…”
 
adnan said:
Not only from communication, but from ignorance also.

As it is said in 2:187: “…seek what Allah has prescribed for you and CONSUME and ABSORB (messages) until the white thread is clarified from the black thread of dawn…”
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Brilliant, brother never got down to working with the translation but makes complete sense
 
Ramdan means scorching heat of summer.
The guidence of the God should be applicable to mankind all year round, not only in the summer.
In this context, Ramdan constitutes extremely difficult times in life.
Now, when man experiences the extremely difficult times, scorching heat, he might ususally break the laws of God and do nasty things in order to relieve or escape from the difficulties.
Not anymore.
God commanded not to breach any rule even when one experiences the hardship.
Prepare for the hard times. Train it. Practice Saum.

Practice it, train it to be able abstain from any wrongdoing even when the life is hard.
You need to prepare for the difficult times.
For this reason, Saum/Sium is the training in advance to be resilient in the times of hardship without breaching the rules.
Abstention is Saum.
Strictly adhearance to the laws of ethics ordained by God even in the difficult times is Taqwa.
Taqwa can be uphold only by training and practicing Saum.
Its all about preparation for the resilience in life.
Nothing religious.
Its not religious practices.
 
Sam Sai said:
To the best of my understanding,"Saum" is the traning to remain resilient at the time of scorching hardship and difficulties(Ramdan).
Abstaining from eating doesn't make us resilient or lead us to prudent fear of God.
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I dont agree.
While i dont think that Saum leads us to prudent fear of God, but It does make us resilient.
Peace
 
Bibhas said:
Therefore, the proper approach is to minimize rather than completely stop bodily activities, or in other words practice moderation. Acts of fasting serve as reflective exercises designed to ensure that a believer remains on the straight path and can self-correct, ultimately drawing closer to God.
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Yes i agree on that. The purpose is being in control of your instincts :
- eating
- drinking
- getting in sexual intercourse
- talking
- sleeping (cause God tell his prophet to stay awake in the night to recite the quran, eventho the verse isnt adressed to us, we can take inspiration )

as you said , these 5 things are not to stop doing them completely but instead to minimize them
 
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