Scientists says earth rotation speed od of 1600 kmh .

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But allha said in quran 16:15 And He cast into the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake, move, with you, and, He made therein, rivers, such as the Nile, and ways, roads, so that you might be guided, to your destinations.
 
Amazigh said:
The Earth is flat.
Also, when you speak english, say "God" not "Allah"

Peace.
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Interesting you feel the need to go out of your way in public to assert yourself over others to command them how to call their Lord...

"Say to them (O Prophet!): "Call upon Him as Allah or call upon Him as al-Rahman; call Him by whichever name you will, all His names are beautiful." 17:110

I think if Allah has granted man freedom in even supplications directly calling unto Him by various names than most surely a man is free to use God's names and in various languages that he so chooses...that is not your business or your authority in another man's life. That is between the man and his Rabb.
 
When one spends his time looking outward wanting to control and judge others it can be surprising what one finds inside his own bosom when he turns his gaze inward...
 
Amazigh said:
The Earth is flat.
Also, when you speak english, say "God" not "Allah"

Peace.
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How do you mean flat? Like flat-flat or not so flat? And is it flattened for us and looks flat to us? If we read Qur’an from right to left in first place where “flatness” is mentioned, in that very place-proof-sign mountains are also mentioned so it is not flat-flat, then overlaying day and night so it needs someone who will think properrly and not be “flat” minded to get to the conclusion…
 
nedimtabakovic1977@icloud said:
How do you mean flat? Like flat-flat or not so flat? And is it flattened for us and looks flat to us? If we read Qur’an from right to left in first place where “flatness” is mentioned, in that very place-proof-sign mountains are also mentioned so it is not flat-flat, then overlaying day and night so it needs someone who will think properly and not be “flat” minded to get to the conclusion…
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Appreciate your insights into showing the dynamic meanings a word can have. This is helpful for me to be mindful of when looking at such things before getting all dogmatic about it...

Makes me think how even in weather reports and scientific academia they will refer to the sun and moon as "setting" and "rising" though they do not believe in a Geocentric model and do not intend their words to be understood as such...its just the ways of speech and perspectives expressed...and requires one to not "flatten" it out in their thinking.
 
Amazigh said:
the dynamic meanings makes it sound like everyone can bend and interpret the quran however they like and how it fits them, you two remind me of those who say when God said created the earth and skys in 6 days he didnt mean actually 6 "days"
all this cause "science" says the world was created in billions years or whatever

I am just gonna tell you, that "they" always keep changing what "science" says so you will have to constantly keep following them with your dynamic meanings and changing your beliefs along the
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Being scientific doesn't not mean you are anti believer, same as praying to some idol doesn’t make you pious believer…without understanding things in different ways would led us to away from where we are now…I appreciate diversity that is where I am now…peace…
 
Amazigh said:
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Amazigh said:
the dynamic meanings makes it sound like everyone can bend and interpret the quran however they like and how it fits them, you two remind me of those who say when God said created the earth and skys in 6 days he didnt mean actually 6 "days"
all this cause "science" says the world was created in billions years or whatever

I am just gonna tell you, that "they" always keep changing what "science" says so you will have to constantly keep following them with your dynamic meanings and changing your beliefs along the way
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Not everyone can accept or internalize this concept. We have been indoctrinated from a very young age and to strip this away may very well shake the foundations of our belief systems. Most do not have the time nor the inclination to research this as it just does not relate only to the shape of where we live. Most think that the shape does not matter.
 
Amazigh said:
about that "science", when you know what the quran agrees with and what the quran disagrees with. You'd feel better. because you will no longer try to make them co-exist in your mind , they simply cant co-exist.
theres a funny meme about the 5 stages of grief. 1st denial ... 5th acceptance


I understand it takes time for ppl to lose that spining ball imdoctrination. and thats why i usually dont try to comvince ppl. As you might notice i only sent them a youtube video instead of actually arguing because i know its pointless to try convince someone with geocentrism
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What I posted is what agrees with the message from the Qur’an and stages of understanding…it is ok to be on any stage…
 
Look up The Final Experiment on YouTube where a group of ‘Flat Earthers’ and a group of ‘Globe Believers’ are going to Antarctica next month to document if there is a 24 hour sun.
 
I gave been watching this with keen interest. They have shown a 24 hour sun. It may provide more clues to the way they world was created and how the luminaries reflect off of the firmament. They just returned yesterday so they will be uploading raw data etc in a few days or less. They took thousands of infrared and solar filter shots to compare tume frames with other people taking the same type of shots world wide. They have also taken long distance infrared shots to also show that it's dead flat. The opposing side is already throwing things out to cause division in the flat earth thinking. As the real data comes out , including a 25 hour full video tracking the sun a better model can now be created for the flat perspective.
Yes everyone is going to jump on the it's fake bandwagon but with patience the real data will be released and a more viable model can be developed. Candabce owens sent her producer on this trip so there are definitely going to be some major hit pieces to shut down flat earth.
 
Star gazing may be interesting but still looking at the stars above us does not give us any information about the land beneath our feet. There are many that are working towards trying to determine existence of God through this while most are in denial of God. I know not what is in the heart if men but can only see by the fruit of their labours. You and I may agree on the shape based on the quranic text but many do not, so if this works in that direction the better. All is in His hands anyways.
 
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