Scientists says earth rotation speed od of 1600 kmh .

C

Charles.

New member
But allha said in quran 16:15 And He cast into the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake, move, with you, and, He made therein, rivers, such as the Nile, and ways, roads, so that you might be guided, to your destinations.
 
Charles. said:
But allha said in quran 16:15 And He cast into the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake, move, with you, and, He made therein, rivers, such as the Nile, and ways, roads, so that you might be guided, to your destinations.
Click to expand...
The Earth is flat.
Also, when you speak english, say "God" not "Allah"

Peace.
 
Amazigh said:
The Earth is flat.
Also, when you speak english, say "God" not "Allah"

Peace.
Click to expand...

Interesting you feel the need to go out of your way in public to assert yourself over others to command them how to call their Lord...

"Say to them (O Prophet!): "Call upon Him as Allah or call upon Him as al-Rahman; call Him by whichever name you will, all His names are beautiful." 17:110

I think if Allah has granted man freedom in even supplications directly calling unto Him by various names than most surely a man is free to use God's names and in various languages that he so chooses...that is not your business or your authority in another man's life. That is between the man and his Rabb.
 
GodGuides4:175 said:
Interesting you feel the need to go out of your way in public to assert yourself over others to command them how to call their Lord...

"Say to them (O Prophet!): "Call upon Him as Allah or call upon Him as al-Rahman; call Him by whichever name you will, all His names are beautiful." 17:110

I think if Allah has granted man freedom in even supplications directly calling unto Him by various names than most surely a man is free to use God's names and in various languages that he so chooses...that is not your business or your authority in another man's life. That is between the man and his Rabb.
Click to expand...
i am an arabic speaker, Allah simply mean The God in arabic. Also Al Raḥman just means The Almighty, And Rabb means Lord. So why use arabic when english sysnonymes exist? You make it sound like Its an Arab God. i recomand you using a better translation like Sam Gerrans'

Say thou: “Call to God, or call to the Almighty; by whichever you call, to Him belong the most beautiful names.” And be thou not loud in thy duty, nor quiet therein, but follow thou a path in-between,
(17:110)

Peace
 
Last edited:
When one spends his time looking outward wanting to control and judge others it can be surprising what one finds inside his own bosom when he turns his gaze inward...
 
Amazigh said:
The Earth is flat.
Also, when you speak english, say "God" not "Allah"

Peace.
Click to expand...
How do you mean flat? Like flat-flat or not so flat? And is it flattened for us and looks flat to us? If we read Qur’an from right to left in first place where “flatness” is mentioned, in that very place-proof-sign mountains are also mentioned so it is not flat-flat, then overlaying day and night so it needs someone who will think properrly and not be “flat” minded to get to the conclusion…
 
nedimtabakovic1977@icloud said:
How do you mean flat? Like flat-flat or not so flat? And is it flattened for us and looks flat to us? If we read Qur’an from right to left in first place where “flatness” is mentioned, in that very place-proof-sign mountains are also mentioned so it is not flat-flat, then overlaying day and night so it needs someone who will think properrly and not be “flat” minded to get to the conclusion…
Click to expand...
 
nedimtabakovic1977@icloud said:
How do you mean flat? Like flat-flat or not so flat? And is it flattened for us and looks flat to us? If we read Qur’an from right to left in first place where “flatness” is mentioned, in that very place-proof-sign mountains are also mentioned so it is not flat-flat, then overlaying day and night so it needs someone who will think properly and not be “flat” minded to get to the conclusion…
Click to expand...

Appreciate your insights into showing the dynamic meanings a word can have. This is helpful for me to be mindful of when looking at such things before getting all dogmatic about it...

Makes me think how even in weather reports and scientific academia they will refer to the sun and moon as "setting" and "rising" though they do not believe in a Geocentric model and do not intend their words to be understood as such...its just the ways of speech and perspectives expressed...and requires one to not "flatten" it out in their thinking.
 
GodGuides4:175 said:
Appreciate your insights into showing the dynamic meanings a word can have. This is helpful for me to be mindful of when looking at such things before getting all dogmatic about it...

Makes me think how even in weather reports and scientific academia they will refer to the sun and moon as "setting" and "rising" though they do not believe in a Geocentric model and do not intend their words to be understood as such...its just the ways of speech and perspectives expressed...and requires one to not "flatten" it out in their thinking.
Click to expand...
the dynamic meanings makes it sound like everyone can bend and interpret the quran however they like and how it fits them, you two remind me of those who say when God said created the earth and skys in 6 days he didnt mean actually 6 "days"
all this cause "science" says the world was created in billions years or whatever

I am just gonna tell you, that "they" always keep changing what "science" says so you will have to constantly keep following them with your dynamic meanings and changing your beliefs along the way
 
Amazigh said:
the dynamic meanings makes it sound like everyone can bend and interpret the quran however they like and how it fits them, you two remind me of those who say when God said created the earth and skys in 6 days he didnt mean actually 6 "days"
all this cause "science" says the world was created in billions years or whatever

I am just gonna tell you, that "they" always keep changing what "science" says so you will have to constantly keep following them with your dynamic meanings and changing your beliefs along the
Click to expand...
Being scientific doesn't not mean you are anti believer, same as praying to some idol doesn’t make you pious believer…without understanding things in different ways would led us to away from where we are now…I appreciate diversity that is where I am now…peace…
 
Amazigh said:
Click to expand...
Amazigh said:
the dynamic meanings makes it sound like everyone can bend and interpret the quran however they like and how it fits them, you two remind me of those who say when God said created the earth and skys in 6 days he didnt mean actually 6 "days"
all this cause "science" says the world was created in billions years or whatever

I am just gonna tell you, that "they" always keep changing what "science" says so you will have to constantly keep following them with your dynamic meanings and changing your beliefs along the way
Click to expand...
Not everyone can accept or internalize this concept. We have been indoctrinated from a very young age and to strip this away may very well shake the foundations of our belief systems. Most do not have the time nor the inclination to research this as it just does not relate only to the shape of where we live. Most think that the shape does not matter.
 
shazaam said:
Not everyone can accept or internalize this concept. We have been indoctrinated from a very young age and to strip this away may very well shake the foundations of our belief systems. Most do not have the time nor the inclination to research this as it just does not relate only to the shape of where we live. Most think that the shape does not matter.
Click to expand...
about that "science", when you know what the quran agrees with and what the quran disagrees with. You'd feel better. because you will no longer try to make them co-exist in your mind , they simply cant co-exist.
theres a funny meme about the 5 stages of grief. 1st denial ... 5th acceptance


I understand it takes time for ppl to lose that spining ball imdoctrination. and thats why i usually dont try to comvince ppl. As you might notice i only sent them a youtube video instead of actually arguing because i know its pointless to try convince someone with geocentrism
 
Amazigh said:
about that "science", when you know what the quran agrees with and what the quran disagrees with. You'd feel better. because you will no longer try to make them co-exist in your mind , they simply cant co-exist.
theres a funny meme about the 5 stages of grief. 1st denial ... 5th acceptance


I understand it takes time for ppl to lose that spining ball imdoctrination. and thats why i usually dont try to comvince ppl. As you might notice i only sent them a youtube video instead of actually arguing because i know its pointless to try convince someone with geocentrism
Click to expand...

What I posted is what agrees with the message from the Qur’an and stages of understanding…it is ok to be on any stage…
 
Look up The Final Experiment on YouTube where a group of ‘Flat Earthers’ and a group of ‘Globe Believers’ are going to Antarctica next month to document if there is a 24 hour sun.
 
shazaam said:
Except that it is not an experiment. It is just an observation arranged by some pastor with money (?).
Click to expand...
Retarded idea
Of course a sun appearing 24 hours on antarctica would not prove globe earth nor prove flat earth
what proves globe earth is that they go to antarctica and they dont change direction and they end up crossing to the other coast of antarctica
for example they go from africa to new zealand or australia by crossing antarctica going straight
what proves flat earth is that they they go to antarctica and they dont change direction and they end up facing a wall or new moutains or something which prevents them from going further the same direction , or they discover a new ocean or a new continent
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top