Salaams, another from England.

[Ishaq]

Hey, all.

35M, married with three children.

My journey is a little more ‘unique’, so to speak.

It was actually my father, who after going to Umrah and ‘finding’ religion, saw many flaws in what we were practising. We are what you would call traditional Sunni but we were never particular overly religious.

At first I was hugely sceptical and fought against him. But being a highly logical person I could only do that if I understood myself.

So, I read the Quran again and again in English. I started watching Sam’s videos and others and got his translation.

After the second to third time reading I could literally see all the laws and rules in the Quran we need to follow and all the nonsense added to the religion.

I say my journey is a little more unique in the fact that this is a very lonely path, it’s not something I can speak about to people and even our own family think lower of us.

However, I’m unique in the fact that I have my father, mother, brother, and wife who are more or less on the same path to truth.

There are still choppy waters to navigate as my wife is on the edge, which makes it difficult to guide our kids with my in-laws being a big part of their life.

As always, though. God guides whom he wills and we can only share what we can in hopes to spark enough interesting that others do the work themselves.

All the best.

 

[Ni’mah the Nomad]

Salaam thanks for sharing. This is interesting that it was your father who introduced you to this. Usually parents and elders in the Muslim community are completely closed to anything new. You are also fortunate that you are the head of your household. As a woman I do not think I can ever tell my husband this… I fear he may consider me “non-Muslim” and may want a divorce. His sister is openly Quran alone as she is the one who introduced me to this and the way they speak about her is very horrible. They consider her an outcast. She is the only person I have. You are right… it is a lonely place. But I am happy I found this forum. At least…

 

[saidmirza]

Peace brother,

Was it because your father went to Saudi and saw how they treated people that changed his outlook on Sunni Islam? I lived in Kuwait for 4 years and found the Arabs to be very arrogant and the Islam practiced there to be very oppressive (as compared to the Islam in Pakistan).

-Said

 

[Ishaq]

Peace brother,

Was it because your father went to Saudi and saw how they treated people that changed his outlook on Sunni Islam? I lived in Kuwait for 4 years and found the Arabs to be very arrogant and the Islam practiced there to be very oppressive (as compared to the Islam in Pakistan).

-Said

Peace, Said.

I think it was more so things like fighting to touch the black stone, throwing stones at the devil(idol), praying at the prophets grave.

It just doesn’t make sense and isn’t compatible with the Quran.

He’s an engineer and was never religious apart from the usual Friday prayers. He sees things logically and is one of the brightest men I know.

So when he started studying the Quran he just saw how the current version of Islam doesn’t work.

In a way, I also did. Just from the people around me. But it didn’t click for me until a while after him.

P.s. I emailed you a short while ago about being able to purchase your books in the U.K. currently they seem to be US on Amazon.

If you use publishing by Amazon you could sell all over the world. I’ve done similar with a tech book I wrote.

 

[Ishaq]

Salaam thanks for sharing. This is interesting that it was your father who introduced you to this. Usually parents and elders in the Muslim community are completely closed to anything new. You are also fortunate that you are the head of your household. As a woman I do not think I can ever tell my husband this… I fear he may consider me “non-Muslim” and may want a divorce. His sister is openly Quran alone as she is the one who introduced me to this and the way they speak about her is very horrible. They consider her an outcast. She is the only person I have. You are right… it is a lonely place. But I am happy I found this forum. At least…

I agree, I’m fortunate and I count that as a huge blessing. But, with my wife we she is sort of 50/50 - she gets some parts but not all.

So, I don’t know what the future holds but God knows best.

I’m glad you have her. Having even just one person helps a lot and I suppose your husband may come around one day.

I would say, just be careful. Im sure your husband loves you but religion brings out some nastiness in people.

 

[Ni’mah the Nomad]

I can say with almost complete confidence that he will never come around to this. He is completely sold. His father is the Imam of our mosque and he almost worships his father. There is no way he will go against anything that is taught at the mosque or even venture to see what may be possible outside of what he grew up in. If I found this path before I married I probably would have just stayed single.

 

[GodGuides4:175]

I can say with almost complete confidence that he will never come around to this. He is completely sold. His father is the Imam of our mosque and he almost worships his father. There is no way he will go against anything that is taught at the mosque or even venture to see what may be possible outside of what he grew up in. If I found this path before I married I probably would have just stayed single.

Oh my heart feels you. I can't fully understand your struggles with your husband and the sorrows in your heart of not being able to connect together spiritually with him...but I do relate a little in the sense that all my family and friends are in a very different place spiritually...but if I may encourage you to never give up on God's mercies. He is all-capable and nothing is too difficult for Him. And we don't know what is going on in their hearts and minds. Only God knows this.

For over twenty years I was an intense Christian overflowing with zeal to convert others and extremely Islamaphobic and an ethnic Jewish Zionist and deep in my religion. No one would have imagined me leaving Christianity let alone here now. And even as I began to doubt and question things people didn't know. But God is knower of hearts and we know not even our own hearts the way He does let alone capable of knowing when someone is beyond hope.

But I do understand something of the disheartened feeling..I feel this struggle with literally everyone I know every single day...they hate Islam (well what they think is Islam) and they love their religion and idolatry and material worldly life and pleasures. I struggle to have meaningful connections with them and it's like we don't even speak the same language any more and the distance seems to increase every day. And it seems hopeless. But its not.

We should never give up on His mercies or His ability to rescue people from darkness and bring them to light..He is Mighty and Subtle and The Opener...it can all change in a single moment... in a single life event or meeting of a person that God brings as a means to humble and guide that person to Himself. His knowledge is perfect and His ways and His timing are perfect far beyond what we will ever know or understand. What looks hopeless and impossible to us today can all change in a moment.

May we daily seek to hear the message spoken to our hearts that He grants through His creation lavished upon us...graciously reminding us with every beat of our heart and breath we take take that the amazing God we love and worship and trust is the God of "Kun faya Kun". Its not hopeless or impossible.

 

[Uncovered Faith]

Oh my heart feels you. I can't fully understand your struggles with your husband and the sorrows in your heart of not being able to connect together spiritually with him...but I do relate a little in the sense that all my family and friends are in a very different place spiritually...but if I may encourage you to never give up on God's mercies. He is all-capable and nothing is too difficult for Him. And we don't know what is going on in their hearts and minds. Only God knows this.

For over twenty years I was an intense Christian overflowing with zeal to convert others and extremely Islamaphobic and an ethnic Jewish Zionist and deep in my religion. No one would have imagined me leaving Christianity let alone here now. And even as I began to doubt and question things people didn't know. But God is knower of hearts and we know not even our own hearts the way He does let alone capable of knowing when someone is beyond hope.

But I do understand something of the disheartened feeling..I feel this struggle with literally everyone I know every single day...they hate Islam (well what they think is Islam) and they love their religion and idolatry and material worldly life and pleasures. I struggle to have meaningful connections with them and it's like we don't even speak the same language any more and the distance seems to increase every day. And it seems hopeless. But its not.

We should never give up on His mercies or His ability to rescue people from darkness and bring them to light..He is Mighty and Subtle and The Opener...it can all change in a single moment... in a single life event or meeting of a person that God brings as a means to humble and guide that person to Himself. His knowledge is perfect and His ways and His timing are perfect far beyond what we will ever know or understand. What looks hopeless and impossible to us today can all change in a moment.

May we daily seek to hear the message spoken to our hearts that He grants through His creation lavished upon us...graciously reminding us with every beat of our heart and breath we take take that the amazing God we love and worship and trust is the God of "Kun faya Kun". Its not hopeless or impossible.

I can relate. I was a strict fundamental Christian for many years. I was Islamaphobic and even aloof with non Christians ( including my family) For me it took a health crisis to bring me to my knees. God used that situation to soften my hardened heart. The family that I had treated like leppars stood by me but many Christian ‘friends’ just told me I had done something to deserve this.
Don’t ever give up on God. He is more than able to change someone’s heart

 

[fatma]

Salaam thanks for sharing. This is interesting that it was your father who introduced you to this. Usually parents and elders in the Muslim community are completely closed to anything new. You are also fortunate that you are the head of your household. As a woman I do not think I can ever tell my husband this… I fear he may consider me “non-Muslim” and may want a divorce. His sister is openly Quran alone as she is the one who introduced me to this and the way they speak about her is very horrible. They consider her an outcast. She is the only person I have. You are right… it is a lonely place. But I am happy I found this forum. At least…

I agree with you. I was also introduced by my father to quran alone but upon telling my husband to research about submitting to God alone he told me i am a kaffir . It nade me sad but i believe God guides whom he wills. I never talked about quran alone to him since 2021

 

[Ni’mah the Nomad]

Oh my heart feels you. I can't fully understand your struggles with your husband and the sorrows in your heart of not being able to connect together spiritually with him...but I do relate a little in the sense that all my family and friends are in a very different place spiritually...but if I may encourage you to never give up on God's mercies. He is all-capable and nothing is too difficult for Him. And we don't know what is going on in their hearts and minds. Only God knows this.

For over twenty years I was an intense Christian overflowing with zeal to convert others and extremely Islamaphobic and an ethnic Jewish Zionist and deep in my religion. No one would have imagined me leaving Christianity let alone here now. And even as I began to doubt and question things people didn't know. But God is knower of hearts and we know not even our own hearts the way He does let alone capable of knowing when someone is beyond hope.

But I do understand something of the disheartened feeling..I feel this struggle with literally everyone I know every single day...they hate Islam (well what they think is Islam) and they love their religion and idolatry and material worldly life and pleasures. I struggle to have meaningful connections with them and it's like we don't even speak the same language any more and the distance seems to increase every day. And it seems hopeless. But its not.

We should never give up on His mercies or His ability to rescue people from darkness and bring them to light..He is Mighty and Subtle and The Opener...it can all change in a single moment... in a single life event or meeting of a person that God brings as a means to humble and guide that person to Himself. His knowledge is perfect and His ways and His timing are perfect far beyond what we will ever know or understand. What looks hopeless and impossible to us today can all change in a moment.

May we daily seek to hear the message spoken to our hearts that He grants through His creation lavished upon us...graciously reminding us with every beat of our heart and breath we take take that the amazing God we love and worship and trust is the God of "Kun faya Kun". Its not hopeless or impossible.

Thank you so much for this. I really appreciate your heartfelt words of encouragement. You are right. We should not lose hope. God is capable of more than we can ever imagine.

 

[Ni’mah the Nomad]

I agree with you. I was also introduced by my father to quran alone but upon telling my husband to research about submitting to God alone he told me i am a kaffir . It nade me sad but i believe God guides whom he wills. I never talked about quran alone to him since 2021

God indeed guides the hearts of those He wills.

 

[Starlight7]

Hey, all.

35M, married with three children.

My journey is a little more ‘unique’, so to speak.

It was actually my father, who after going to Umrah and ‘finding’ religion, saw many flaws in what we were practising. We are what you would call traditional Sunni but we were never particular overly religious.

At first I was hugely sceptical and fought against him. But being a highly logical person I could only do that if I understood myself.

So, I read the Quran again and again in English. I started watching Sam’s videos and others and got his translation.

After the second to third time reading I could literally see all the laws and rules in the Quran we need to follow and all the nonsense added to the religion.

I say my journey is a little more unique in the fact that this is a very lonely path, it’s not something I can speak about to people and even our own family think lower of us.

However, I’m unique in the fact that I have my father, mother, brother, and wife who are more or less on the same path to truth.

There are still choppy waters to navigate as my wife is on the edge, which makes it difficult to guide our kids with my in-laws being a big part of their life.

As always, though. God guides whom he wills and we can only share what we can in hopes to spark enough interesting that others do the work themselves.

All the best.

Peace, it’s refreshing to know elders of your family took a proactive approach in learning of the truth via Quran. I was born in a Sunni family and growing up l had more questions than answers. Eventually and secretly l focused only on the Quran in English. A completely different Islam. Till this day my family refuse to accept Quran only Islam and continue their practices. I am patient so l tend to find moments in discourse to discuss what God says in the Quran rather than Hadith literature and also to teach or tell them why certain things which don’t work go against God’s laws as per Quran. Sadly they hear but don’t take on board. But I am not giving up anytime soon. Takes one to cause a revolution.

 

[adnan]

There are still choppy waters to navigate as my wife is on the edge, which makes it difficult to guide our kids with my in-laws being a big part of their life.

As always, though. God guides whom he wills and we can only share what we can in hopes to spark enough interesting that others do the work themselves.

I fully understand your position.

But if Ibrahim couldn’t guide his father and Nuh couldn’t guide his son then it’s a lecture for us who submit.
There are all examples in the Quran for those who open their minds and souls and for those who are not deaf and blind.