Over 20 yrs Relationship With Religion Instead of Relationship With God

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Hello! I'm from the United States. I was a devout Protestant Christian (Reformed Calvinist) for over 20 yrs. I was immersed in reading Theologian and Puritan works during that time. It was through my ongoing studies into apologetics (intention to strengthen my own faith and polemics) that God in His mercies used all my zeal as a means to allow me to see contradictions in the Bible, manuscript discrepancies, irreconcilable doctrines, hypocrisy of my heros/teachers/church fathers and bloody church history of orthodoxy established by sword and crown....but the most pressing was the idolatry of Trinity and deification of Jesus that I could not ignore it any longer. It was a two year deconstruction journey. (Which is still going on) At present I reject inspiration and preservation of the Bible, Trinity, deity of Jesus, hypostatic union, PSA penal substitutionary atonement, OSAS once saved always saved, etc. I reject all Christianity creeds, councils, and most orthodoxy tenants of Christianity. (Bible itself contradicts many of these doctrines)

So this year I began to read the Quran and started to consider Islam. I find the Quran often meets my soul sweetly and powerfully and affirms what I have come to learn by way of deconstruction of Christianity through God's guidance. And interesting several things in the Bible that disturbed me as being evil not consistent with God's character are absent in the Quran and in areas they are similar I find it presents different focus that is uniquely beautiful and corrective and resonates with me. But as I listened to Imams/scholars lectures I found so much likeness to all the Christianity God had graciously freed me from. And as I started to look into the Hadiths I was greatly troubled and perplexed by both doctrine content and chain of narration science. I had a few Sunni Muslims befriend me online and they engaged in heavy apologetics with me trying to get me to fully embrace Islam but they made it became even more clear to me it was much the same as what I was pleading with God to save me from in all my years of Christianity.

It is only by God's mercies that I had a discomfort and fear to invoke Muhammad's name in prayers and in the Shahada. It was through my research of these things about Islam that I came across quranists. And the little bit I could find I was encouraged that I was not alone with seeing major issues with the Hadiths and majority of Islam that is outright shirk idolatry and paganism.

So I mostly focused on reading the Quran the last few months. In doing this I was seeing that there is translation bias in the Quran just like Christianity bias has made the Bible into a work of interpretation per orthodoxy instead of a translation. So I was searching for Quran lexicons, concordance, word studies, and anything that would grant me some insight into Arabic meanings and grant alternative translations to the couple translations of the Quran I had. That is when God lead me to Sam Gerran's translation. And then to Said Mirza's YouTube channel and well now here today...

So I still have lots of questions and things to work through both in character and doctrine and much to unlearn after over twenty years of zealously indoctrinating myself with religion. I'm thankful to have the opportunity in this group to consider other people's views and understandings and Lord willing continue to learn how to better love, obey, and worship God with all my heart, mind, and strength according to His truth. And that He grant me the ability to be a faithful witness to those He puts in my life.
 
Peace be upon you,

Thank you for the in-depth introduction.

Brother Gerrans’ work is fantastic as he spent a lot of time uncovering the true meanings of words that the Traditionalist has lost (chosen to forget, really). Please do post here if you have questions and I do hope the believers can help you out.

I built the Reader website specifically to showcase Brother Gerrans’ translation and also that anyone verify his pan-textual methodolgy.

-Said
 
Peace be upon you,

Thank you for the in-depth introduction.

Brother Gerrans’ work is fantastic as he spent a lot of time uncovering the true meanings of words that the Traditionalist has lost (chosen to forget, really). Please do post here if you have questions and I do hope the believers can help you out.

I built the Reader website specifically to showcase Brother Gerrans’ translation and also that anyone verify his pan-textual methodolgy.

-Said
Hello and peace to you!

Oh I didn't realize you constructed the website/reader for that. I have used that reader website daily in my Quran reading study time this past month to compare passages from other translations.

Truly God's providences and guidance for each of us is so intricate and detailed. Im sure you and Sam have a beautiful journey of God bringing you together! And then think of all the impact that has upon other people...and then the ways they will have impact on others...and it just keeps going and going. His providences and guidance are so complex and intricate and perfect! We can't even grasp the mere edges of His ways.

God has been opening my eyes this last month to catch little glimpses of how deeply profound and complex His provisions and mercies are for each of us in even the most simple things...

For example as I enjoy a simple bowl of cereal...I was thinking upon that beautiful passage how He knows every seed and the falling of every leaf...and He knows every seed that is in that bowl of cereal and He knows every leaf upon the plants the bore those grains and He sustained the parent plants and the parent plants of them...and provided every moment of sunshine and every drop of rain for each of those plants through the generations to grow and all the humans that labored cultivating those grain crops generation after generation receiving His life sustaining mercies...

When one stops and thinks about things...there is sooo much history within each of God's mercies....it truly is mercy upon mercies (endless layers and depth) even a simple meal that we are granted the privilege to eat in this life...it is incomprehensible and bewildering and truly He is the Most Merciful and Best Provider!

May God enlarge all of our hearts and minds to behold more clear views of His mercies and beauty to fill us with deeper gratitude, adoration, and love!
 
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Hello! I'm from the United States. I was a devout Protestant Christian (Reformed Calvinist) for over 20 yrs. I was immersed in reading Theologian and Puritan works during that time. It was through my ongoing studies into apologetics (intention to strengthen my own faith and polemics) that God in His mercies used all my zeal as a means to allow me to see contradictions in the Bible, manuscript discrepancies, irreconcilable doctrines, hypocrisy of my heros/teachers/church fathers and bloody church history of orthodoxy established by sword and crown....but the most pressing was the idolatry of Trinity and deification of Jesus that I could not ignore it any longer. It was a two year deconstruction journey. (Which is still going on) At present I reject inspiration and preservation of the Bible, Trinity, deity of Jesus, hypostatic union, PSA penal substitutionary atonement, OSAS once saved always saved, etc. I reject all Christianity creeds, councils, and most orthodoxy tenants of Christianity. (Bible itself contradicts many of these doctrines)

So this year I began to read the Quran and started to consider Islam. I find the Quran often meets my soul sweetly and powerfully and affirms what I have come to learn by way of deconstruction of Christianity through God's guidance. And interesting several things in the Bible that disturbed me as being evil not consistent with God's character are absent in the Quran and in areas they are similar I find it presents different focus that is uniquely beautiful and corrective and resonates with me. But as I listened to Imams/scholars lectures I found so much likeness to all the Christianity God had graciously freed me from. And as I started to look into the Hadiths I was greatly troubled and perplexed by both doctrine content and chain of narration science. I had a few Sunni Muslims befriend me online and they engaged in heavy apologetics with me trying to get me to fully embrace Islam but they made it became even more clear to me it was much the same as what I was pleading with God to save me from in all my years of Christianity.

It is only by God's mercies that I had a discomfort and fear to invoke Muhammad's name in prayers and in the Shahada. It was through my research of these things about Islam that I came across quranists. And the little bit I could find I was encouraged that I was not alone with seeing major issues with the Hadiths and majority of Islam that is outright shirk idolatry and paganism.

So I mostly focused on reading the Quran the last few months. In doing this I was seeing that there is translation bias in the Quran just like Christianity bias has made the Bible into a work of interpretation per orthodoxy instead of a translation. So I was searching for Quran lexicons, concordance, word studies, and anything that would grant me some insight into Arabic meanings and grant alternative translations to the couple translations of the Quran I had. That is when God lead me to Sam Gerran's translation. And then to Said Mirza's YouTube channel and well now here today...

So I still have lots of questions and things to work through both in character and doctrine and much to unlearn after over twenty years of zealously indoctrinating myself with religion. I'm thankful to have the opportunity in this group to consider other people's views and understandings and Lord willing continue to learn how to better love, obey, and worship God with all my heart, mind, and strength according to His truth. And that He grant me the ability to be a faithful witness to those He puts in my life.
This could have been me writing this! I am a 40 year plus Christian. I basically have been deconstructing my faith over the past ten years. I last year after much research I finally admitted that Jesus was not God. That left me feeling completely lost. I started looking in to Islam at the end of 2023. I made an IG account and attracted many people who tried to encourage me. But many were of a Salafi persuasion and got angry when I questioned Hadiths. I found Sheikh Abou El Fadl and started listening to his online Tafsir series. On day 11 of Surah Bakarah I had a God moment where suddenly everything made sense. In my heart I accepted Islam. I’ve deleted my IG account. Anyway, it’s lovely to meet another Christian following a similar path.
 
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